Interesting?
July 29, 2009
For the last week or so I have been tidying up some of my cd’s and checking what was on them,, they are a sort of archive and collection over the last 3 years of images and bits n’ bobs people have sent me for the village website.
Flicking through one cd of images (thanks Angela), I noticed on an old programme from a Hale Carnival of 1967,, that the Carnival, or Fete as it was then known, actually did’t take place in the park, as it was then a cow field used by Home Farm for grazing their milk herd, but in fact the location of the Fete was the Cricket Pitch!? Also,, in several paper cut outs from the local rag at the time (1967),, it stated that the Carnival/Fete had, had a 10 year gap, so this would take the Carnival back to 1957 when the last one took place, up until 1967 when it was re-instated!?
I would guess,, that the Carnival/Fete would not have started in the park as we know it, up until Arnold Cox and Willy Howell commissioned the pocket of land for public use in or around 1972/1974 (the date is on the old notice/bylaws board on the left as you go in the park). I can remember myself going to the carnival in the mid 1970s in the park as it was then, even then, at times, I can remember home farm cutting the grass in the park for silage!? In fact the park, was not know as Hale Park by local villagers,, but “The Park”
It was interesting to see, on this old carnival programme,, the late Bernard Webb was infact the chairman of the carnival committee along with Ken Owen (the town cryer) and Robert English-from up Church Road!
Asking (Blackie) my unle Bill what went on, he said,, “the floates were horse’ n cart” , “sometimes the fete would be in the village too”, “to get to the cricket pitch they would open the park gate and go along the track to the cricket, sometimes the cows would be either getting milked so they wouldn’t be in the way- or they would shoo them off so the procession/fete could get to the cricket as it came from Houghton Towers opposite Burnses Farm” He said,, “everyone would be outin the village and down the cricket”. He then rattled off (as per usual) more memories and anicdotes about the park than what my fingers could keep up with and type on here.. So that will do for another day!
Looking at the carnival/fete programme,, it has simple events on it, such as throwing/tossing the bail(of straw), tug of war, sack race and a dog show. All simple events along with side shows where locals got involved and enjoyed the day as a local village community!
Once the day was over,, the field and cricket pitch would return to their normal daily use, either playing cricket or allowing the cows back on to keep the grass down!
I have an image of the park, possibly dated around the late 50s to early 60s, of cows grazing near the drive, once one zooms in to the the center of it,, you can see a young lad rounding up the cows and herding them in the home farm direction, for milking possibly. He has shorts on and has a stick in one hand-possibly blondish hair. If anyone has an idea whom it may be at the time,, please let me know,, it would be interesting to put a name to this little chap?
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1. Mrs M Thorne | August 8, 2009 at 9:31 am
I read your article with interest but I must point out the last carnival in the 50’s was in 1953 (The coronation Year) when I was the village Queen (Margaret Trowe). That’s true the float was a horse ‘n’ cart decorated by my mother with flowers grown from our garden and chrysanthemums bought from Webb’s nursery were my father worked.
The procession started at Houghton Towers, Ramsbrooke Lane then paraded round the village ending up in the park were I was crowned by Lady Mary Fleetwood Hesketh sister-in-law of the late Peter Fleetwood Hesketh (The Squire of Hale).
How the carnival started was through Jan Immick organising a small fancy dress parade in 1951 and this was followed by a carnival a few months latter when Jean Walllace was village Queen. I had the good fortune to win first prize with my decorated bicycle.
2. Mrs M | August 11, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Hi William, Thank you for your email. I knew your Uncle Bill well and we knew him as Bugsy Bagley in fact I knew the whole family when they lived in the other house in Pepper Street. I remember your mother (Annie) riding her bike up Ramsbrooke Lane to work and in the dark nights your Grandmother would cycle up to meet her.
Yes, I know Dot Brass and again I remember when she lived in Pepper Street opposite to where you live now when it was a thatched cottage before moving to where she now lives. She married Bob Burns.
I don’t mind you asking me anything about the village if it is any help to you. My father was known as Jack Trowe and worked at Webb’s Nursery for years. I see there is a photo of my father taken in one of the greenhouses at Webb’s with some of the other workmen (but unfortunately I can’t put names to) on the old Hale Village site.
I knew Jean Allan had moved away from the village and went to live near her son Billy.
That’s true what your Uncle Bill said I was born and bred in the cottage next door to Ronnie Hilton’s the only home I had until I moved away.
I still keep in touch with the village by getting the church magazine every month but like everything else I hardly know anybody in it apart from the odd death from my age era and they are getting few and far between. I still visit Hale once a year to attend to my brother’s grave and stay with a friend.
Even though it’s many years since I left Hale Village I will never lose contact with the village.